Comments on: Lightroom 2 Technique: Staying Organized with Controlled Vocabulary http://blog.ericscouten.com/2009/02/lightroom-2-technique-staying-organized-with-controlled-vocabulary/ The photography, travel, and technology blog of Eric Scouten Wed, 18 Aug 2010 00:52:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Eric http://blog.ericscouten.com/2009/02/lightroom-2-technique-staying-organized-with-controlled-vocabulary/#comment-5587 Eric Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:22:41 +0000 http://blog.ericscouten.com/?p=241#comment-5587 Hi Jack, it sounds like you might have imported the individual photos as opposed to importing the catalog. If so, there are two ways (I can think of, anyway) that the keywords might have been flattened: (1) The photos you imported were exported with the "Write Lightroom Keyword Hierarchy" option disabled. (2) Perhaps before organizing the keywords, you had an unflattened list of keywords on your desktop, and you didn't save metadata before importing them. If neither of these apply, then there's probably something more significant going on and we should investigate further. Hi Jack, it sounds like you might have imported the individual photos as opposed to importing the catalog. If so, there are two ways (I can think of, anyway) that the keywords might have been flattened:

(1) The photos you imported were exported with the “Write Lightroom Keyword Hierarchy” option disabled.

(2) Perhaps before organizing the keywords, you had an unflattened list of keywords on your desktop, and you didn’t save metadata before importing them.

If neither of these apply, then there’s probably something more significant going on and we should investigate further.

]]> By: Jack Swenson http://blog.ericscouten.com/2009/02/lightroom-2-technique-staying-organized-with-controlled-vocabulary/#comment-5586 Jack Swenson Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:57:54 +0000 http://blog.ericscouten.com/?p=241#comment-5586 Hi Eric, Thanks for all the excellent info on your blog (which I just found in this week). I have a nasty problem with my keyword list and LR2.6. I created my own big list of keywords on my home desktop, with clean hierarchies and including many synonyms at the most detailed levels. I then successfully imported that list into my laptop. However, I then imported a group of photos from the desktop into my laptop LR. Unfortunately, when I did that, all the piles of keywords & synonyms then flooded alphabetically into the top hierarchy list on my laptop LR keyword list. So now it's a mess. Did I do it wrong, or is this a problem with LR? Any advise? Thanks. -Jack (Seattle) Hi Eric,
Thanks for all the excellent info on your blog (which I just found in this week). I have a nasty problem with my keyword list and LR2.6. I created my own big list of keywords on my home desktop, with clean hierarchies and including many synonyms at the most detailed levels. I then successfully imported that list into my laptop. However, I then imported a group of photos from the desktop into my laptop LR. Unfortunately, when I did that, all the piles of keywords & synonyms then flooded alphabetically into the top hierarchy list on my laptop LR keyword list. So now it’s a mess. Did I do it wrong, or is this a problem with LR? Any advise? Thanks. -Jack (Seattle)

]]> By: Roy http://blog.ericscouten.com/2009/02/lightroom-2-technique-staying-organized-with-controlled-vocabulary/#comment-5555 Roy Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:43:01 +0000 http://blog.ericscouten.com/?p=241#comment-5555 Correction to Above: In Step 2. Set Font to: Arial and Set character Set to: Unicode Also Just tried this with XP 32bit SPK3. Code A719 is different than in Vista. I don't have Lightroom on this Laptop to test with... so try using using a character that appeals to you from near the bottom of the list of characters (Arabic symbols) - Working your way up until the Key category no longer sorts to the bottom. Correction to Above:
In Step 2. Set Font to: Arial and Set character Set to: Unicode
Also
Just tried this with XP 32bit SPK3. Code A719 is different than in Vista.

I don’t have Lightroom on this Laptop to test with… so try using using a character that appeals to you from near the bottom of the list of characters (Arabic symbols) – Working your way up until the Key category no longer sorts to the bottom.

]]> By: Roy http://blog.ericscouten.com/2009/02/lightroom-2-technique-staying-organized-with-controlled-vocabulary/#comment-5554 Roy Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:08:49 +0000 http://blog.ericscouten.com/?p=241#comment-5554 SORT to the Bottom works on this system: Lightroom version: 2.5 [605155] Operating system: Windows Vista Service Pack 2 (Build 6002) Version: 6.0 [6002] Application architecture: x64 System architecture: x64 This procedure should work for XP, Vista or Win 7 (32 or 64bit) Steps to follow: 1. Open Program > System > Character Map 2. set character Set to: Unicode 3. In Go to Unicode box enter : A719 (selects a superscripted line with a dot above) 4. Click Selet Button 5. Click Copy Button 6. Back to Lightroom Keyword 7. Select a top level Non CVKC Keword and Right click - Select renane 8. Click to set cursor at the begining of the name and press CTRL+V (do not enter any spaces between the newly copied character and the first character of the keyword name) 9. Click to set cursor at the end of the name and press CTRL+V (do not enter any spaces between the newly copied character and the last chracter of the keyword name) 10. Press Enter key - done. SORT to the Bottom works on this system:
Lightroom version: 2.5 [605155]
Operating system: Windows Vista Service Pack 2 (Build 6002)
Version: 6.0 [6002]
Application architecture: x64
System architecture: x64

This procedure should work for XP, Vista or Win 7 (32 or 64bit)
Steps to follow:
1. Open Program > System > Character Map
2. set character Set to: Unicode
3. In Go to Unicode box enter : A719 (selects a superscripted line with a dot above)
4. Click Selet Button
5. Click Copy Button
6. Back to Lightroom Keyword
7. Select a top level Non CVKC Keword and Right click – Select renane
8. Click to set cursor at the begining of the name and press CTRL+V (do not enter any spaces between the newly copied character and the first character of the keyword name)
9. Click to set cursor at the end of the name and press CTRL+V (do not enter any spaces between the newly copied character and the last chracter of the keyword name)
10. Press Enter key – done.

]]> By: Steve Crane http://blog.ericscouten.com/2009/02/lightroom-2-technique-staying-organized-with-controlled-vocabulary/#comment-5310 Steve Crane Sat, 16 May 2009 14:45:48 +0000 http://blog.ericscouten.com/?p=241#comment-5310 To force some items to the bottom you could use a multi character prefix like zz_ which is unlikely to sort before any of your actual keywords. To force some items to the bottom you could use a multi character prefix like zz_ which is unlikely to sort before any of your actual keywords.

]]> By: Sheri http://blog.ericscouten.com/2009/02/lightroom-2-technique-staying-organized-with-controlled-vocabulary/#comment-4996 Sheri Sat, 21 Mar 2009 18:04:52 +0000 http://blog.ericscouten.com/?p=241#comment-4996 Cool tip. Thanks! Cool tip. Thanks!

]]> By: Eric http://blog.ericscouten.com/2009/02/lightroom-2-technique-staying-organized-with-controlled-vocabulary/#comment-4911 Eric Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:36:47 +0000 http://blog.ericscouten.com/?p=241#comment-4911 @Syv: I wish that were true. Unfortunately, even those characters sort to the top, at least on Windows XP. (I didn't try Vista.) I can't add a screenshot here in the comments, but I did add an update box inline farther up in the page. @Syv: I wish that were true. Unfortunately, even those characters sort to the top, at least on Windows XP. (I didn’t try Vista.) I can’t add a screenshot here in the comments, but I did add an update box inline farther up in the page.

]]> By: Syv Ritch http://blog.ericscouten.com/2009/02/lightroom-2-technique-staying-organized-with-controlled-vocabulary/#comment-4910 Syv Ritch Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:31:26 +0000 http://blog.ericscouten.com/?p=241#comment-4910 <cite> I’ve tried several but haven’t found one that sinks to the bottom. If you find one, please speak up in the comments: </cite> The TILDE: the ~ last character, will always "sink at the bottom". The last 5 characters are: <code> z : lowercase { | } ~ </code> The first 5 characters "will always float to the top" are: <code> space ! " # $ </code> Hope this helps. -- Syv Ritch http://foto-biz.com The Business of Being a Photographer
I’ve tried several but haven’t found one that sinks to the bottom. If you find one, please speak up in the comments:

The TILDE: the ~ last character, will always “sink at the bottom”. The last 5 characters are:

z : lowercase
{
|
}
~

The first 5 characters “will always float to the top” are:

space
!
"
#
$

Hope this helps.

–
Syv Ritch
http://foto-biz.com
The Business of Being a Photographer

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